From: "Ruben Suiza"
To: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:27:49 +0200 Subject: Genealogy hi James. Thanks for your quick response. The town I am looking for is Plunge. I am sorry but I mispelled it. I do have connections in Cape Town as my husband is a rabbi and sits on the Beth Din here. We are obviously very involved in Jewish community affairs as well as serving on the Chevra Kadisha. Some good email addresses are: email@example.com which is our local Union of Orthodox Synag of SA firstname.lastname@example.org which is our monthly Jewish Chronicle. email@example.com is the SA Jewish Board of Deputies in Johannesburg. Any particular cemetry issues you are looking for can be forwarded to me and I can check it up for you. Let me know what else you are interested in or perhaps people you are looking for. My family goes back many years in Cape Town and we have plenty contacts here in all fields of Judaism. I am awaiting an email address of a lady in Johannesburg who apparently has info on the cemetries there and has been in contact with my brother re the Juter name, so once I receive that I can pass her add on to you. Keep in touch. Debbie. ----------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 07:46:10 -0500 From: MS ANN RABINOWITZ Subject: Immigration database for South Africa In regard to Howard Fuchs inquiry regarding a turn of the century internet accessible database of Jewish immigrants to South Africa, the following information is provided: o At present, there is NO comprehensive listing of all Jewish immigrants to South Africa. o There is a new database of those Jews who came through the Poor Jews Shelter in London. This covers the years 1895-1915 approximately. It was prepared under the auspices of Prof. Aubrey Newman at the University of Leicester, England, and the Kaplan Centre in Cape Town, South Africa. However, the listing does not contain the names of all Jews who went to South Africa during this period as they did not all go through the Shelter. o There are uncatalogued and unindexed passenger manifests in the PRO (Public Record Office) at Kew, England, to be found under the Board of Trade records entitled BT27. This contains all outgoing passengers from England from 1895 through 1960. There is no way, at present, to pull out the Jewish and/or South Africa bound passengers. The records are totally uncomputerized. In the near future, there may be some attempts to index these materials. o There is a collection of passenger list registers of Jewish arrivals to South Africa for the years 1924-1929 which is to be found in the Morris Alexander Papers at the Kaplan Centre in Cape Town, South Africa. These records are being computerized, again, under the auspices of the Kaplan Centre, Cape Town, South Africa, but won't be available until sometime mid-year 1998. o There is a small collection of materials relating to Jewish passengers who were rejected admission to South Africa and returned to their home countries during the 1900's. These are to found in the Morris Alexander Papers at the Kaplan Centre, in Cape Town, South Africa. This is not an organized batch of records at all and is not indexed. o There are possibly other sources for passenger arrivals and these are being researched. Ann Rabinowitz firstname.lastname@example.org -------------------- From: Paul Cheifitz To: email@example.com Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 22:03:29 +0200 Subject: Jewish Family History Society of Cape Town Dear James, We have started a Family History Society to help people locate their families and roots here in Cape Town. This is not a specifically litvak group although most of our members have Litvak origins. If I can give you more data please let me know. Regards Paul Cheifitz ----------------- Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:59:45 EST From: SBWeiner Subject: South Africa research Those of you who are researching South African might want to check out the South Africa Rootsweb list (you can reach info on how to subscribe from the overall RootsWeb home page at http://www.rootsweb.com). While it's true that not many of the surnames discussed there appear to be Jewish, I've received some helpful info and feedback from posting my surnames to the discussion group. The New Year opened with a call for all subscribers to post to the list the surnames they're searching, so there's a lot of activity now. Also, Conrod Mercer, who runs the list, plans to collect the surnames and place them permanently on his South African genealogy web page (see his announcement copied below). For those of you with Johannesburg roots, I'm copying a list of the people who attended my ggmother Lena CHIMES' funeral which I believe was in June 1930 or 1931. Her obit says "Mrs. Chimes was among the first Jewish women in Kimberley and on the Rand and it was at her home that Cecil Rhodes enjoyed his first kosher meal." The service was conducted by Rev. H. Lipschitz. Attendees: Mr & Mrs. B Fine, Mr & Mrs J Chosack, Mr. Sydney Hayden (representing Kinemas,Ltd.), Mr & Mrs J Klibansky, Mr & Mrs Scott, Mr. Beinashowitz, Mr. T. S. Fleisher, Mr. Leo Shear, Messrs L. and M. Chosak, Mr. Marks, Messrs R. and S.Davin, Mrs. Entin, Capt. van Zyl, Mr & Mrs Bernstein, Mr & Mrs. Pirowe, Major Holborn, Mr & Mrs. Steinman, Mr and Mrs Simmer, Mr. Rufus Schiff, Mr & Mrs Green, Gus Lefevre, George & Albert Gordon, Mr & Mrs. Ginsberg, Stanley McIntosch. If anyone recognizes any of these names, I'd be curious to learn about it. By the way, my greataunt Rae married a CHOSACK (I don't know his first name) and I vaguely recall my mother referring to SCHIFF relatives in South Africa. I know NOTHING else about any of the names on this list. Here's the info on the South African surname web page planned by the leader of the rootsweb list: From: "Conrod Mercer" To: SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com Hi All, I would like to thank-you all for resubmitting your surnames to the list - the question now is what to do with all this information, remembering that it will be difficult to check the archives for these names because of the general nature of the subject heading. Because of this I would be prepared to transfer all the information for these research interests to my South African genealogy web site, which may be visited by many people who are not subscribed to the list and who may be connected. I won't do this however unless I receive your specific permission to add your message, in its current format, to such a surname interest page. If you want me to add the surnames contained in your message on a specific surname interest page, please contact me directly at my personal email address and I will do so. It is not necessary to send such messages to the list address, because this will clog up the list with messages aimed at myself and for my interest only, at this stage and may not be of interest to other list members. I envisage such a page including the surname/s of the people you are researching, an area of South Africa (ie Cape Province, Natal, etc., or a town/city) in which you are interested, if applicable, and a time frame for the family -i.e. 1652 to present or 1820 -1900 etc. I would also envisage such a page not only including our South African surname interests but also those from other countries in the Southern African region, including Rhodesia/Zimbabwe etc. Your assistance greatly appreciated. Regards Conrod Mercer 28 Hosking Street, Brenthurst, Brakpan, 1541, RSA email: firstname.lastname@example.org Home Page: http://home.global.co.za/~mercon/ South-Africa-L and South-Africa-D listowner This is the end of the message I copied from the South African list. Susan Weiner Boston, Mass. email@example.com --------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:52:25 EST From: SBWeiner Subject: South Africa surname web page That South African surname interest web page I mentioned in an earlier posting is now up. Here's its address: http://home.global.co.za/~mercon/surnames.html Susan Weiner -------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:44:01 PST From: Errol M Kristal Subject: Re: Death certificates in South Africa Heather Luntz asked about South African Death certificates and dates of birth. No, normally the Death Certificate only records date, place and cause of death. What you want is the Death NOTICE, a document that forms part of the probate records, along with the will, if any, and an inventory (list) of assets of the deceased. The Death Notice contains provision not only for date and place of birth, but even details of the deceased's parents. If meticulously completed, the death notice is a treasure. Regretfully, my experience is that it is seldom so done -usually only a minimum of detail is included by the person completing it, who need not necessarily be a relative, and could for instance be the superintendent of the hospital where death occurred! It's always worth a shot, however. Write - in the case of a death in Johannesburg before 1967, to The Director of Government Archives of S Africa, Private Bag X 236, Pretoria, S Africa 0001. There is a small fee - they'll let you know it. Errol Kristal firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com ----------------- Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:55:05 EST From: SBWeiner Subject: Johnannesburg, S. Africa cemeteries I'm copying below some information on Johannesburg cemeteries that I received from a helpful South African who found my ggparents' death dates from the Brixton Cemetery records held by "Shere Adisha"(sic?). I hope this helps someone else. Susan Weiner, Boston, Mass. >If you have a phone number for "Shera Adisha," could you forward it to me? >I'd like to post it to the online Jewish genealogy group I belong to. Hello Susan As Johannesburg was a city that just happened there wasn't very much planning in the early days. People were first buries at the Braamfontein Cemetery from 1888 to 1910. Then the Brixton Cemetery from 1910 to 1942. Around 1939 to 1942 Brixton was running out of space so some burials took place in the very large aisles of Braamfontein Cemetery. Records for both are at Braamfontein (011) 487-3480, (011) 837-6818. Shera Adisha (011) 839-3425. In 1942 the Westpark Cemetery was opened. Records available at Westpark (011) 782-5249. People living in Malvern (east of JHb) were often buried at Germiston Cemetery. (011) 871-7911.